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Niels Koschoreck's avatar

I have never met a realised person either.

I had many great teachers and mentors in my life, but my current estimation is we all have feet of clay.

Great respect for what someone achieves and shares, yes, but idealisation doesn’t seem such a good idea. It might even weaken one’s own search, I think.

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Nico Versluys's avatar

What a real wealth of knowledge you’re offering folks here Mitch. I’m very honoured to be able to receive it.

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Hauber's avatar

Would you claim Mitch to be more realized tha Srila Prabhupada? Or at least, positioned to judge by way of anecdote? At that, taken at face value and starkly atypical?

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𝐌𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐇𝐨𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐳's avatar

My teacher considered SP realized.

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Hauber's avatar

Yet 'could not be his teacher'??

Speculating here admittedly, but sounds as though he may have been tested and failed at first. SP was essentially liberal, and well known to have been uncommonly so in the early days.

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𝐌𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐇𝐨𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐳's avatar

"Opposition is true Friendship" (Blake). In a sense, SP was his teacher, perhaps moreso if he failed. These are all possibilities.

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Hauber's avatar

The most likely possibility would be feigned sincerity masking arrogance. First qualification in Vaisnava school, and conscious or not, single non-negotiable failure. Prabhupada would have had X-Ray specs for it.

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